Trinidad Robustos Extras Collecion Vintage jar

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Visiting Spain I brought back a little souvenir. 🙂 So below you can see some pictures of my newest “stick in the barn”, the Trinidad Robustos Extra. But those do not come in the standard box of twelve! And that said I consider Trinidad to have some of the most elegant packaging in the Habanos Universe. Those varnished boxes and the way the cigars fit in them, layered and wrapped in a silk ribon is just goergous.

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What you see here is the Trinidad Robustos Extras Collecion Vintage jar. This comes as number two out of a series of three, that were crafted for the Spanish market only. The first one of this rustic and old-school looking jars is the Upmann Magnum 46 and the third one contains Hoyos Epicure No. 2. And not only do all those cigars come in a Sevilla styled jar, no! They are especially aged for five years and the jars are numbered on the bottom (only 700 pieces are made of this Trinidad jar). So this thing ticks almost all my boxes: a jar is one of my favorite ways to store cigars, I am a sucker for numbered collectables and I prefer smoking cigars 5 years or older. And even though I feel that the ring size from the Robustos Extras is a tad big, it makes a flavory, rich smoke after a not to opulent meal! And for the sake of completeness I should add that the jar contains 16 cigars (opposed to 12 coming in the standard box) and each cigar has a second band that makes its origin clear: “Collecion Vintage”.

Trinidad Robustos Extras cigar

Not the first time I mention on this blog that I really appreciate what the Spanish do. Every year they release something that is collectable and extra ordinary and this is done with regular production cigars and not special editions. Not the first time either I am writing this here too: my appetite for “editions” is barely existing anymore. So another box ticked here for me! To sum it up: a beautiful and classic looking jar and some very nice cigars inside.

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TotT – Bolivar Churchills Tubos

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Another cigar was reviewed in the tasting of the titans circle. And not just reviewed. I think I am save to say that we all enjoyed this one very much. The Bolivar Churchills Tubos from 2001.

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And if this would have not been enough we again have been fortunately enough to be gifted with a few great cigars: The Bushidos ER APAC, Punch EL, Davidoff Brazil and the new release, the Partagas Maduros. I wanted to focus on the Bolivar so I did not smoke any of them but I am planing to do some online reviews here soon (and boy, I am really looking forward to smoking them!).

Bolivar Churchill Tubos

But back to the cigar of that evening. The Bolivar Churchill Tubos had a boxing date from 2001 and unfortunately they have been discontinued in 2002. The tubo itself has a classic metal look design (not so colorful as the newer releases) and what came out of this tubo was really hard to believe. The cigar looked so young that it was hard to believe that it already was 14 years old. A delicate and oily wrapper and a strong and complex sent filled out noses. Wow – what a Habanos cigar! And already from the first puffs a nice creamy smoke tasting of leather and floral aromas filled the room and mouth. My specimen was slightly peppery and nicely complex. There is really not much to say, than – WOW! One of the best cigars I have smoked this year and another proof that 2001 cigars can be outstanding! Not much to add here apart from please check the tasting sheets enclosed below.

Bolivar Churchill Tubos

Again we smoked a spectacular cigar, eat a nice burger and had some good conversations. I am left again to to thank the titans for the spectacular cigars, the nice company and their time and of course many thanks to the Portmann’s for their generosity and hospitality. I am really feeling that I would miss something in my life if we wouldn’t have those get togethers in the Griffins Business Lounge in Kreuzlingen! And Heiko, thanks for the Barbecue sauce! 😉

For more impressions, details and description of the cigars please see the individual tasting sheets:
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Cigars keeping their value

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Many times before I have been confronted with the opinion that cigars are good value and you can sell them with profit anytime. Some of us may even think that their collection has a better return on investment than securities dealt with at the highest risks on Wall-street. In the following I just want to share some thoughts of mine about cigars keeping their value (or not).

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Here is what my experience with selling cigars is (so far). To make it short: If your box is not amongst the most sought after collectibles (and I mean top 3 or so) than you will have a hard time to sell them for what you have paid back in the days.

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It of course really depends on what you are trying to sell. If you try to sell a regular production box with only a few years on it, the chances are slim that you will even see what you have paied for. If you sell something a little more sought after like an Edicion Limitada or Regionales you might even get away with a little premium. And in case of doubt I would even go so far to say that “scarce” always beats “aged”. This probably is because aged cigars turn up via the regular channels with reasonable price tags many time, while collectibles only show up once in a blue moon and at a huge premium.

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Now I have to admit that I do not have huge experience in selling. So far I only sold cigars that over the time did not appeal to me anymore (e.g. Petit Robustos or ELs). And this was always to “make room” for other cigars or free funds for another hobby. So I am not in it for profits but of course nobody likes to loose money.

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I somewhere read that world wide there are only 400 avid collectors that buy vintages, pre-embargos and collectibles. If that is true, that would not be a big number, isn’t it? And unless you are not aquatinted with one of them you most probably will have to sell to someone in your “circle of smoke” or to a professional.

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If you have to sell to a professional that is another thing. Mind you many of the pros are very nice, have good manors and are willing to look into what you offer. Some of them I estimate them as I would a friend. But for most of them this is not a hobby like it is for me. For most of them it is real hard work. They worked for their reputation and their connections. And they worked very hard. And at the end of the day you have to run a successful business and that simply means that there has to be a margin of profit. And due to very high prices for aged and collectable cigars this margin might be questionably high in some cases.

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So here is to hoping you do not count on the revenues for when you’re old and in need. And whenever possible try to sell to friends who you know will appreciate the cigars. Or even better, swap. That for me so far always was the best experience!

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